tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15272577.post3814922237318640651..comments2023-10-09T02:55:02.521-07:00Comments on Mission Resource Site: And another announcement: Brian McLaren in NZMike Crowlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02823415769823932104noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15272577.post-27192801623506626222009-10-11T19:56:57.173-07:002009-10-11T19:56:57.173-07:00It's a while since I read any of McLaren's...It's a while since I read any of McLaren's books, but the ones I read didn't give me any sense that he was into heresy. <br />I've just had a look at his explanation about joining in Ramadan (http://www.brianmclaren.net/archives/blog/ramadan-2009-part-1-whats-going.html); I can see that his motivations may be good, but I don't know (for myself) that it's a wise step; he admits the likelihood of criticism from Christians <i>and</i> Muslims. I don't know that it wouldn't have been better, if he was going to fast, for him to have fasted according to a Christian tradition - there are plenty to choose from, after all. Fasting isn't limited to either Christianity nor Islam as a religious exercise. It's fairly common to many religions, and usually for similar reasons. However, he appears to saying that it's a way of connecting with Muslims rather than antagonizing them, and there's merit in that perhaps. <br />I agree that it seems as though he's 'observing' Ramadan; yup, not sure of his motives there entirely, although he's not particularly 'evasive' in the post I've linked to. <br />Sorry, missed the tongue-in-cheek aspect. I guess there will come a time when speakers don't come physically to a place like NZ, when the technology is a bit more sophisticated than it is currently (it's available, but not always ideal); and you're right, it might have made a statement in line with his views on climate change and the like.<br />By the way, do you want to respond with a name rather than under 'anonymous'? It's always good to know who we're talking to.Mike Crowlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02823415769823932104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15272577.post-15051966229296612722009-10-11T19:36:33.625-07:002009-10-11T19:36:33.625-07:00Hi Mike
What have you been reading?! From what I&...Hi Mike<br /><br />What have you been reading?! From what I've read of McLaren he has very suspect views on hell, the atonement and penal substitution, homosexuality and the gospel itself to name but a few! <br /><br />He has also just finished Ramadan, the Muslim religious observance, and on his blog was asked a question about whether or not Christians and Muslims worship the same God. His answer was evasive at best. The facts clearly show that the Muslim god Allah isn't YHWH, the God of the bible at all (for example, the Koran denies Jesus as divine, denies the crucifixion etc). So why be evasive when answering a simple yes/no question, when the facts are plain to see? And why observe Ramadan which is a requirement for Muslims who believe in a different god? Will Brian be participating in Hindu festivals next? Celebrating Joseph Smith's birthday perhaps?<br /><br />As for the CO2 thing, I had my tongue in my cheek somewhat with that comment, but for someone like McLaren who seems to place a great emphasis on political/social issues such as "climate change", perhaps he has some explaining to do? Isn't it hypocritical to yak on about "climate change", and then trip round the world on a jet plane?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15272577.post-24317280942019895472009-10-11T12:25:06.866-07:002009-10-11T12:25:06.866-07:00I agree that there has been debate over McLaren in...I agree that there has been debate over McLaren in regard to heresy, but nothing of his I've read has given any indication of it. As for C02, well probably no more than it takes for various politicans to fly around the world being important, having photo ops and shaking hands with the world's leaders.Mike Crowlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02823415769823932104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15272577.post-23036106338738492622009-10-09T21:50:19.086-07:002009-10-09T21:50:19.086-07:00Ony 1 meeting? Thank goodness there's not more...Ony 1 meeting? Thank goodness there's not more. NZ DOESN'T need heresy from this guy polluting our shores. ps, how much co2 r u using to get here Brian?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15272577.post-26206518146093351402009-09-22T18:45:35.975-07:002009-09-22T18:45:35.975-07:00Heads up, thumbs up...we understand either way!
Ye...Heads up, thumbs up...we understand either way!<br />Yes, hopefully they'll let me know what they thought and I can let the reading public know as well...Mike Crowlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02823415769823932104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15272577.post-52163468563467514392009-09-22T18:42:12.036-07:002009-09-22T18:42:12.036-07:00BTW: I meant 'heads up'.
I look forward t...BTW: I meant 'heads up'.<br /><br />I look forward to hearing about it. Perhaps you can get them to type up a wee reflection on it that you can post here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15272577.post-58849180975888578282009-09-22T18:40:59.883-07:002009-09-22T18:40:59.883-07:00I don't think I'll be going myself, but ot...I don't think I'll be going myself, but other members of the team will definitely be.Mike Crowlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02823415769823932104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15272577.post-51203382622476580572009-09-22T18:39:36.165-07:002009-09-22T18:39:36.165-07:00Hey Mike,
Thanks for the thumbs up about this. Ar...Hey Mike,<br /><br />Thanks for the thumbs up about this. Are you planning on going up?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com